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How Much Do Uber Drivers Make? [2021 Update]

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Earning money just by hopping into your car is a dream that Uber has helped millions of drivers achieve. However, when you’re considering a driving gig as a path to meet your financial goals, you probably want to know exactly what you can expect before you start filling out an Uber application. So exactly how much do Uber drivers make?

New driver sign-up bonuses and a flexible schedule can be enticing, but with frequent talk about low driver pay, it can be hard to determine if an Uber gig is really worth what it advertises. After all, making sure your earnings will meet your needs in the long run is a definite must, whether you’re a part-time or full-time driver.

Keep reading to get our complete guide to how much Uber drivers make so you can decide whether to sign up or look elsewhere.

Uber Driver Earnings Trends in 2019 and 2020

How Much Do Uber Drivers Make: Line drawing of car with driver holding money driving toward a big city

Before we break down the specifics of how much Uber drivers make, we’ll consider how earning levels have changed in the past year.

At the time of this writing, COVID-19 is currently decimating driver earnings. Our team just completed a survey of 175 rideshare drivers, and found that rideshare income is down by over 80% since coronavirus lockdowns began last month. As a result, many drivers are struggling to make ends meet and are at risk of not being able to cover staple expenses like car and insurance payments.

Aside from the pandemic-related income changes, before the lockdowns went into effect, average Uber driver earnings across all platforms actually increased 31.4% from our 2018 survey.

It is evident that there are some big changes happening in a handful of major U.S. cities. Namely, Uber is responding to criticism about its classification of drivers as independent contractors.

Uber drivers have always been independent contractors in the United States. This allows you to have full control over your schedule and essentially be your own boss. At the same time, this has enabled the ridesharing company to keep driver pay fairly low while also leaving drivers responsible for all of their own rideshare expenses.

Car payments, as well as vehicle and health insurance costs, aren’t covered either. After paying for their own gas, maintenance, insurance, and more — not to mention paying self-employment taxes on top of income taxes — many drivers are left with unimpressive annual earnings. We’ll dive into more on that in the section below.

In this past year, the precedent for change has been set. New York City became the first U.S. city to set a minimum wage for rideshare drivers, boosting driver pay by over $5 per hour above the national average.

As a result of these changes, our survey found that New York City has become the best-paying city for Uber drivers, with drivers earning an average of $26.24 per hour. Some California drivers are also getting more control over their own rates, allowing for higher earnings for strategic drivers.

If this trend continues, it’s quite possible that both your earnings and independence will continue to increase in 2020 and beyond. Keep this in mind as you learn more about what Uber drivers are currently making below.


Does Uber Pay Its Drivers a Salary?

Before we go any further, let’s get the obvious question out of the way: Does Uber pay its drivers a salary? The answer is a straightforward, “No.” Uber drivers are independent contractors. This means that they are not employees of Uber. Because of this, Uber does not have to pay them a salary or hourly wage. In fact, minimum wage laws don’t apply to independent contractors.

If you think this seems unfair, you’re not alone. New York City has passed legislation to require Uber (and Lyft) to pay its drivers a minimum wage. Depending on your perspective, you may see this as either a victory for workers’ rights or excessive government regulation of private enterprise.

The arguments for paying drivers at least a minimum wage make sense. Though on the other hand, rideshare companies like Uber argue that requiring them to pay drivers a minimum hourly wage harms the platform as a whole.

The extra money that Uber has to pay drivers must come from somewhere, and that likely means fare increases for riders. From Uber’s perspective, this will decrease demand for the service and thus lower the number of rides (and earnings) that drivers can get.

Here’s how Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi put it in a statement to the Chicago Sun-Times:

“‘A driver gets on Uber because they can drive whenever they want,’ Khosrowshahi, who is Uber’s CEO, told us. ‘They are their own bosses. They can drive for two hours. They can drive for 50 hours.’”

Overall, this is a complicated issue, and it’s still too early to say how the new rules in NYC will affect the industry or whether or not other cities will adopt similar rules. For now, however, the majority of Uber drivers around the United States and world continue to earn a percentage of the fares that riders pay, plus tips and bonuses.


Do Uber Drivers Have Benefits?

Uber Driver Salary: Health benefits and life insurance benefits list

Along with discussions of an hourly wage and salary, the question of benefits for Uber drivers often comes up. Once again, Uber appears to fall short in this area compared to other companies. Uber doesn’t offer retirement plans, health insurance, paid sick leave, or paid family leave for drivers.

Depending on your perspective, this may or may not make sense. If you’re driving for Uber on top of your day job, then the idea of Uber offering you benefits may seem unnecessary.

But you need to remember that some drivers use Uber (or other gig economy apps) as their sole source of income. These drivers don’t have the luxury of receiving health insurance from their day job. Uber driving is their day job.

So what is Uber doing to address this issue? The company does offer limited benefits to drivers. To help with vehicle maintenance, Uber drivers can get 15 percent off at Firestone, Maaco, Meineke, Midas, Jiffy Lube, Sears Auto Center, Valvoline, and Advance Auto Parts. Uber also states that they’re “working with AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon to save you [Uber drivers] 8–22 percent on your monthly bill.”

Additionally, Uber does offer some assistance with healthcare. The company has partnered with Stride Health, an online health insurance broker that helps independent contractors find the health insurance and other insurance products they need.

While the service that Stride provides is free, we should note that Uber does nothing to help subsidize the cost of health insurance for its drivers. Drivers are still responsible for paying all their plan’s premiums in full. Therefore, while the partnership with Stride is a nice gesture, it doesn’t amount to much in the way of health insurance assistance for Uber drivers.

Uber (and some drivers) would argue that while the company may not offer traditional benefits — like retirement plans and health insurance — working as an Uber driver does come with other, intangible benefits.

To start with, Uber drivers have the flexibility to set their own hours. If you want to drive only at night, you can do that. Prefer early mornings? No problem. Want to drive for 12 hours straight? You’re welcome to, though the company will make you take a 6-hour break afterwards for safety reasons.

There’s also the nature of the work itself. When you drive for Uber, you aren’t stuck in an office, and you don’t have to deal with a boss. You get to meet a variety of people and see different parts of your city. Compared to a desk job, this can be a dream for many people.


How Much Do Uber Drivers Get Paid?

Interestingly enough, I found that to truly figure out how much Uber drivers get paid, it’s important to take into account two main points that oftentimes get overlooked by most drivers:

  1. How much does the Uber ride cost?
  2. How much are Uber driver expenses?

The different factors that affect these numbers widely vary by city, but the general idea stays the same no matter where you drive. Let’s dig a bit deeper.

**The numbers and figures listed in this article are meant to give a general representation of what some Uber drivers in the industry are currently making. I am by no means claiming that you will or will not make these amounts. What you earn depends on many factors out of my control, and I cannot be held accountable for the final number you pull in.

1. How much does an Uber ride cost?

Before we go any further we need to know how much Uber pays drivers for each ride they give.

Riders get charged via a simple formula: Fare = Time + Distance.

For every minute a passenger is in the Uber, they get charged (time). On top of that, every mile you travel also gets charged (distance).

Okay, I told a small lie there. The total fare has a few more variables. They are:

  • Base Fare
  • Rider Fee / Booking Fee
  • Surge Pricing

The Base Fare is fixed per trip. The Rider Fee or Booking Fee is also fixed and is set to cover things like driver background checks and other driver-related expenses Uber incurs on booking.

These fees vary from city to city and also on what Uber the passenger requests.

Finally, if driver supply is low and passenger requests are high, surge pricing might be enabled to encourage more drivers to come to the road, costing the riders more. This is a multiplier and its value depends on the gap between driver supply and passenger demand. The wider the gap, the higher the multiplier.

So how riders get charged is based on a formula that has two parts. First, we work out the subtotal.

Subtotal = Base Fare + Time + Distance

Then we apply the surge pricing, if any, to the subtotal. If passenger demand and rider supply are balanced then this number is just 1.0. Then add the booking fee to get the fare the passenger pays.

Passenger Fare = (Subtotal x Surge Pricing) + Booking Fee

However, this is not the payout the Uber Driver gets. Let’s illustrate with an example.

For this scenario, we’ll be using the example of a rider in Chicago traveling via UberX from The Sears Tower to the Navy Pier. The ride is 2.3 miles and takes approximately 15 minutes. In Chicago, the base fare is $1.70, the cost per minute is $0.20 and the cost per mile is $0.90, in addition to a booking fee of $1.20.

Passenger fare: 1.70 + (0.20 x 15) + (0.90 x 2.3) + 1.20 = approx $8. (However, our Uber Fare Estimator estimates this being between $12–$14)

Let’s take an optimistic outlook and say the final passenger fare will be $14.

Not bad, right?

Well, the driver doesn’t actually get to keep all that money. Uber takes a 20 percent cut of the final fare.

It’s also worth pointing out that even if the rider is on a new user promotional credit, the driver still gets paid like normal.

$14 – $1.20 Booking Fee – ($12.8 x 0.80) = $10.24

So for the 15-minute ride, the driver would only earn $10.24. That’s not net, that’s their total payout for the ride before expenses, which brings us to our next point.

2. How much are Uber driver expenses?

After a driver has given an Uber ride, they must calculate the hidden cost of the ride. Often drivers overlook these expenses, which then comes back to bite them later down the road.

These expenses include:

  • Insurance: This includes personal insurance and a rideshare or commercial insurance policy.
  • Car/lease payments: The amounts a driver pays to drive their vehicle. Drivers either own their own vehicles or lease one from Uber or a third-party provider.
  • Tolls, license, permit fees: Drivers pay for all of these fees. Passengers pay an added surcharge when drivers must incur toll fees.
  • Gas: Since drivers are considered independent contractors, they must pay for their own gas, and are not reimbursed.
  • Vehicle maintenance: Drivers are responsible for their own vehicle maintenance and upkeep. They will be reimbursed if a rider damages their vehicle, however.

These types of expenses, again, can vary widely based on a bunch of different factors, including what type of car you drive, what city you drive in, age, and driving record.

Given that fact, we’ll summarize these expenses and speak in broad generalities.

It’s a general rule of thumb for the rideshare industry to budget roughly 20 percent of the total ride fare amount for ride-related expenses.

In our example, that would mean: $10.24 x 0.8 = $8.19

At that rate – hypothetically speaking, after factoring in pick-up, drop-off, and dead time – the UberX driver could estimate to make somewhere in the neighborhood of $15–$20 an hour if they were to get two similar rides each hour they drove.

Bottom line: Uber drivers have a lot of expenses, that cut into their earnings, and drastically affect how much they pocket when it’s all said and done.


How Much Do Uber Drivers Make Per Hour?

While being an Uber driver can be great, figures on hourly income can be elusive. I personally drive in the Midwest, and I’ve made anywhere from $5 an hour during times of high driver supply and passenger demand, to more than $50 an hour during a glacial snowstorm when almost all other drivers were hibernating like bears in their beds.

So in 2019, to clear up the confusion, our team created a survey that measured driver earnings and satisfaction to finally get some answers.

Over 2,600 active drivers took our survey, which allowed us to analyze $1,027,585 in driver earnings that represent 62,583 paid driver hours.

After getting the data, we thoroughly analyzed it and compiled our final results into Ridester’s 2018 Independent Driver Earnings Survey.

We found that in late 2018, the average UberX driver made $13.70 per hour before tips, or $14.73 after tips are calculated in. UberXL and Select drivers earned just under $15 per hour before tips, while Uber Black driver wages averaged out at an impressive $24.87 per hour before tips.

2018 survey findings:

After notable news outlets like The New York Times, Forbes, CNBC, and Vice, (just to name a few) quoted our 2018 survey data, we decided to re-run the survey to see how much of a different a year would make on Uber driver pay. Shockingly, we were blown away by the results.

In our 2020 RIDES Survey, we found that Uber drivers across all service levels experienced a 31.4% increase in earnings for a total of $19.36 per hour when base rate, tips, and Uber bonuses were factored in. UberX drivers experienced the highest increase of all service levels, seeing a bump in earnings of $14.73 in 2018 to $18.97 in 2020.

2020 survey findings:

Other notable findings from the 2020 RIDES Survey:

  • The average tip for UberX drivers increased 7% between 2018 and 2020
  • 46.4% of drivers drive for less than a year
  • It seems that Uber is paying drivers more bonuses in 2020, which is key to the increase from 2018

While Uber once advertised that drivers could make as much as $25 per hour, it’s clear that this attractive payment isn’t what the majority of drivers — UberX drivers — are experiencing each day. These higher earnings are only easy if you own or invest in commercial insurance and a luxury vehicle, though doing so can also lead to greater maintenance costs over time.

Still, that’s not to say that $25 per hour isn’t possible for the average driver. Uber drivers’ hourly wages continue to be heavily influenced by a number of factors, including:

  • Location: Drivers in Honolulu and Seattle may often see earnings around the $25 per hour mark, while drivers in places like Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Houston, Texas may not even reach $10 per hour.
  • Surge pricing: During busy times (often including rush hours, storms, and big events), demand will rise higher than supply, allowing surge pricing to kick in. This multiplies fares, leading to big per-hour earnings differences.
  • Tips: Drivers earn 100% of tips, so getting even one extra dollar on a tip per hour can lead to big hourly earnings differences.

Once in a while, you may even be sent Uber driver promotions that help you earn extra money for driving in a certain location or completing a set amount of rides. With this in mind, you can see how no Uber driver is limited to the national average $19.36per hour wage.


How Much Do Uber Drivers Make Per Day?

Taking the average hourly earnings described in the previous section, we can calculate that the average Uber driver can make approximately $154 in a single day. This is assuming that rideshare driving is your full-time job and you drive a full eight-hour day. If you are in New York, you’ll of course make more, earning $209.92 per day at an hourly rate of $26.24 per hour.

However, it is admittedly hard to provide a completely accurate daily earnings estimate, as daily earnings see huge fluctuations. Part-time drivers will naturally earn less than full-time drivers, and even full-time drivers (those who drive 40 hours per week) don’t always follow consistent schedules. They may drive a couple hours in one day, but drive 10 hours the next.

The best way to estimate your expected earnings is by considering what your own driving habits will look like on any given day.


How Much Do Uber Drivers Make Per Week?

Full-time UberX drivers can expect to earn nearly $590 per week after tips when working 40 hours in a week. Beyond the aforementioned factors — location, surge, and tips — weekly earnings can also be heavily impacted by the amount of trip requests you receive throughout a seven-day period.

Some weeks, especially during the holiday season, you may notice your app lighting up with back-to-back requests as soon as you log on. On other weeks, you may be frequently idling while waiting for your next pick-up requests.

When considering the $590 per week earnings, remember that this average is calculated before your weekly gas expenses or your taxes are taken into account.


How Much Do Uber Drivers Make Per Month?

If we calculate one month as a four-week period of time, an average Uber driver makes approximately $2,360 per month when working full-time. Again, this amount can fluctuate based on where you’re located, what service you’re providing, and more, but you can expect close to $2,400 per month across the nation.

Of course, it’s important to not let it slip your mind that you have major monthly expenses to take care of on top of your gas expenses. This will typically include the cost of an oil change and car insurance payments.


How Much Do Uber Drivers Make Per Year?

According to Glassdoor, an average Uber driver will make approximately $33,000 per year, including tips and promotions. This pay may be meager in a major metropolitan area or for drivers with families to support, but it’s decent for single drivers in many U.S. cities. If you focus on strategies like increasing your tips with exceptional service (and even small amenities), you may start making money even faster.

Again, it’s important to consider the costs of being an independent contractor beyond the expenses of ridesharing and self-employment taxes. As an Uber driver, you’re responsible for your own “benefits,” like vacation days and health insurance, which means that $33,000 isn’t as high as it may sound for a standard full-time employee. Still, considering the amount of flexibility you get and the low barrier of entry to the job, becoming a full-time Uber driver may be perfectly worth it for you.

If it isn’t, driving with Uber can still be an excellent side hustle that can help you pay for anything from your vehicle insurance to your student loans.


Which Uber Car Makes the Most Money?

If you’re a new driver for Uber or Lyft, you’ve probably wondered which type of vehicle you can make the most money with.

But, the real question is, which Uber service pays the most. Because it’s the service level you wish to work for that will determine what kind of vehicle you’ll have to have.

There are several different levels of Uber rideshare that drivers can drive for. Each service level requires a different type of vehicle. And each service level pays drivers at different rates. When considering what type of vehicle you should get, you first have to consider which of Uber’s several services you might like to drive for.

The main service levels Uber offers to its passengers, ordered from lowest rates to highest:

UberX

UberX is the most popular service class of Uber’s offerings. And no doubt it is the most popular because it is the cheapest. The low price is good for riders, but for rideshare drivers, being the cheapest means low earnings.

Nationally, UberX charges passengers on average:

  • $0.40 pickup fee
  • $0.97 per mile
  • $0.14 per minute

And drivers make just 75% of that, so drives make the following on UberX

  • $0.30 pickup fee
  • $0.73 per mile
  • $0.11 per minute

To make it easy to compare earnings on the various service levels, let’s look at a typical 4-mile/15-minute trip. This is a pretty typical trip in large congested cities. We’ll use this hypothetical 4-mile/15-minute to compare vehicle options throughout this post.

With UberX rates, a 4-mile/15-minute trip would earn you:

  • $0.30 pickup fee
  • $2.92 mileage charge
  • $1.65 time charge
  • $4.87 Total

On average, drivers complete 2.1-2.5 trips per hour. If you get another trip just like this one, you’ll make around $10 for that hour (before car expenses and taxes). If however, you get a second trip in that hour that’s a longer trip – you could do better and maybe end up with around $15 for that hour.

According to the 2018 RIDES survey (Ridester’s Independent Driver Earnings Survey), UberX workers generally earn from $10-$15 per hour driving on average (before expenses). That rate barely beats minimum wage hourly rate in most states.

Although most any four-door car is acceptable for UberX, smart drivers will drive a hybrid so they can save extra money on gas. They’ll also save a lot of money on brake pads since hybrids have their own deceleration system that involves putting the brake pads into use a fraction of the time of non-hybrid cars.

The Toyota Camry Hybrid is probably the most popular and practical UberX vehicle. But other low-cost hybrids such as the Prius or the Hyundai Sonata or the Honda Insight are perfect for UberX as well.

UberXL

UberXL is the next step above UberX. As the name implies, it’s an extra-large vehicle.

UberXL vehicles are required to have six passenger seats (in addition to the driver’s seat). Riders use XL when they have more than four people or when they have a lot of luggage or packages that they need to transport.

UberXL rates are roughly 75% higher than UberX rates. Nationally, XL charges Uber passengers on average:

  • $2.15 pickup fee
  • $1.68 per mile
  • $0.26 per minute

And drivers make just 75% of that, so drives make the following on UberXL

  • $1.61 pickup fee
  • $1.26 per mile
  • $0.20 per minute

With UberXL rates, a 4-mile/15-minute trip would earn you:

  • $1.61 pickup fee
  • $5.04 mileage charge
  • $3.00 time charge
  • $9.65 Total

This comes to nearly twice as much (1.98x) what a driver would have earned on an equivalent UberX trip.

According to our 2018 RIDES survey, UberXL drivers earned on average 8% more than UberX drivers.

You may wonder if UberXL rates are 75% higher why did drivers only earn 8% more? That’s because if you drive an XL vehicle, you will still take a lot of X trips. You can tell the app that you will take “all calls” meaning you’ll take calls from every service class your vehicle is eligible for. And in the case of XL vehicles, they are eligible for XL calls and X calls. Or, you can tell the app you will only take XL trips.

If you tell the app you will only accept XL trips, then you will get far fewer trips. You’ll make more on each trip, but you won’t get as many. Unless you know where and when to position yourself for the maximum opportunity to get XL trips, you’ll be missing out on earnings.

There are times and places where it’s okay to set your trip preference to XL only. Namely, the airports. The airports are the best place to use ur XL vehicle.

UberXL is a Great Choice for Better Earnings

We believe XL vehicles are the best choice if you want to earn more than you can with UberX but you don’t want to spend an arm and a leg on your vehicle.

The reason we believe XL is the best choice for earnings is that Uber riders are very well aware of the UberXL choice. The same can’t be said for the higher levels of service like Select and Black.

And Uber has been around long enough that airport travelers have learned that when they have a lot of baggage or a large group of people, an XL vehicle can handle all of them and their luggage.

So, if you go into the airport queue lot and set your app to accept XL calls only, you usually won’t have to wait too long and you’ll get a profitable trip.

Another top time for XL trips is the Friday and Saturday night bar scene when people tend to travel in groups of four or more.

Top XL vehicles include:

UberBLACK

UberBLACK is Uber’s high-end luxury car service. It is the luxury equivalent of UberX. Like UberX, Black cars are only required to have seating for four passengers. However, they must be black inside and out and the interior must be leather.

Black cars are also generally required to be registered as for-hire vehicles. And drivers must follow the local licensing requirements for traditional for-hire drivers.

UberBLACK is the second most expensive ride in Uber’s fleet. Unfortunately for drivers, Uber has packed the streets of most cities with more Black car drivers than the demand can keep busy. So you can easily sit for 30, 40 or even 60 minutes in between rides. But, the rates are so high that you can make more off of one 30-minute highway trip than an UberX driver can usually make in two hours.

UberBLACK vehicles can only accept trips from UberX. So, if you’re not busy with Black car calls, you can always accept X calls. However, most Black car drivers hate doing this because they earn 2-3 times less on X trips as they would earn on equivalent Black car trips.

Most Black car drivers will only accept X trips if they’re getting desperate for a trip. It’s unfortunate that they can’t accept higher-paying XL trips, but their cars don’t qualify as extra large vehicles.

Our 2018 RIDES survey showed UberBLACK drivers earned a median of $24.87 per hour. This is much higher than UberX, UberXL, and UberSELECT drivers. And it could be even higher if Black car drivers were kept busier.

Nationally, an Uber ride for a BLACK car costs a passenger:

  • $7.22 pickup fee
  • $3.33 per mile
  • $0.44 per minute

And drivers make 75% of that, so drives make the following on UberBLACK

  • $5.42 pickup fee
  • $2.50 per mile
  • $0.33 per minute

With UberX rates, a 4-mile/15-minute trip would earn you:

  • $7.22 pickup fee
  • $10.00 mileage charge
  • $4.95 time charge
  • $22.17 Total

At these rates, you can see that if you could keep busy, you could make some real money. And if you get a trip that is slightly longer than our theoretical 4-mile/15-minute trip here, you could easily make in that one brief trip more than the typical UberX driver makes in two hours.

Many Black-car drivers who do only get one or two trips are happy with it even though they know they’re not making much more than an UberX driver. However, what they do make is made a lot easier and with a lot less effort. It is also made with a lot less wear and tear put on their car.

Some Black-car drivers are happy to accept a few UberX trips in between Black-car rides. If they get one decent Black-car trip in an hour they’re more willing to take a couple of X trips afterward to add to their earnings.

With UberBLACK and UberSELECT, the trick is knowing when to mix and match trip types. It’s something you’ll learn with experience.

Top UberBLACK vehicles are:

  • BMW 5- & 7-Series
  • Mercedes S/G/GL/GLC-Class +
  • Volvo XC90
  • Infiniti Q70
  • Lexus ES and LS
  • Audi A6, A7, A8 & more
  • Hyundai Genesis

UberSUV

UberSUV is Uber’s most expensive service class, with the exception of UberLUX. However, UberLUX is only available in a limited number of markets, so for most cities, UberSUV is the top of the line.

UberSUV vehicles are top-of-the-line luxury SUVs. Like UberBLACK, they must be black inside and out and they’re required to have leather seats. Also, like UberBLACK UberSUV drivers must be licensed according to local rules for for-hire drivers. And their vehicles must be commercially licensed as for-hire transportation vehicles. This also means that most drivers must possess commercial insurance as well.

One big advantage UberSUVs have is that they can drive for all the service classes below them. They can accept calls for UberBLACK, UberSELECT, UberXL, and UberX. This gives SUVs the ultimate in flexibility.

SUV drivers can use a myriad of different mix and match strategies to maximize their income.

As we said before, the more expensive the ride, the fewer people that will use it. And that holds true for UberSUV. SUV drivers will receive fewer SUV calls than any other call type. They will generally accept Black and Select (where available) calls as well. And sometimes they’ll accept XL calls.

When an UberSUV driver drops someone off at the airport, one strategy they use effectively is to switch over to XL to get a quick trip out. If they accept SUV calls only, they could wait literally hours before getting a trip. So, it’s much smarter to switch to XL and get a quick trip – but a trip at higher rates than X.

By mixing and matching service classes in this way, SUV drivers can maximize their earnings.

The downside to driving for UberSUV is the vehicles are super expensive to attain and very expensive to maintain. They guzzle gas like there’s no tomorrow so drivers don’t like to cruise around looking for a ride. Drivers who purchase or rent an SUV for the sole purpose of driving for Uber and Lyft, usually end up working full-time to meet all the expenses. And full-time usually means at least 50-60 hours a week.

Nationally, charges on UberSUV average:

  • $14.00 pickup fee
  • $4.00 per mile
  • $0.49 per minute

And drivers make 75% of that, so drives make the following on UberSUV

  • $10.50 pickup fee
  • $3.00 per mile
  • $0.37 per minute

With a 4-mile/15-minute trip you would earn:

  • $10.50 pickup fee
  • $12.00 mileage charge
  • $5.55 time charge
  • $28.05 Total

If SUV drivers could get one of these typical trips once per hour, they would make far more than any other Uber driver. However, they may only get an SUV trip once or twice a day. The rest of the day they’ll spend doing XL, Select or Black trips, in that order. But those one or two SUV trips a day can easily add $100 or more to their daily earnings.

If they were lucky enough to get a 60-mile/60-minute trip they’d earn $213 in that hour! But an SUV trip that long is quite unlikely.

Top UberSUV vehicles include:

  • Chevy Suburban (most common, but not the most luxurious and will not lead to the highest ratings)
  • Cadillac Escalate
  • Lincoln Navigator
  • Ford Expedition
  • Infinity QX

UberSELECT

UberSELECT is the next service level up from UberX and UberXL. Like UberX, UberSELECT is a four-door sedan that carries four passengers. It is an in-between car between the low-end UberX and the high-end luxury cars of UberBLACK.

Ultimately,  UberSELECT is a lower-end version of UberBLACK, and it is less expensive for riders and pays less to drivers. It’s also not available everywhere. It’s only available in select markets! So, you should check with your local Uber team to see if it’s available where you live.

Select rates are higher than XL rates but lower than Black rates. Because of this, in the markets where Select is available, drivers generally get more trips with it than they do with UberBLACK.

The one inviolable rule-of-thumb in this business is that the more a service class costs, the fewer people there are who will use it. So, the better each service class pays, the fewer trips you will get.

In the case of UberSELECT however, it’s still cheap enough that you can get more trips with it than you could with UberBLACK.

UberSELECT is the first service class in Uber’s lineup that breaks $2.00 per mile mark.

Nationally, charges on UberSELECT average:

  • $4.02 pickup fee
  • $2.17 per mile
  • $0.33 per minute

And drivers make 75% of that, so drives make the following on UberSELECT

  • $3.02 pickup fee
  • $1.62 per mile
  • $0.25 per minute

Going back to our 4-mile/15-minute trip, you would earn the following with UberSELECT:

  • $3.02 pickup fee
  • $6.48 mileage charge
  • $3.75 time charge
  • $13.25 Total

Now we’re talking! These are rates at which drivers can make some decent money. We believe UberSELECT rates should be the minimum rates charged. UberX should start at these prices and they should go up from there.

You can see at these rates that an UberSELECT driver could potentially make more in one trip than an X or XL driver could make in an entire hour.

However, our 2018 RIDES survey shows that Select drivers don’t make that much more than X drivers. In fact, they make almost the same as XL drivers.

We believe the reason for that is that Select, being a newer product to the market, is not as well known and therefore not widely used. So Select drivers end up doing mostly X trips with a Select trip thrown in here and there.

We believe that over time, Select will become more widely known and more popular.

Top Select vehicles are generally lower-end cars from luxury automakers. They include:

  • Audi RDX/A3
  • BMW X3
  • Infinity EX

UberLUXUberPOOL, and UberWAV

We’re going to skip UberLUX since it is rarely available and rarely utilized by passengers. Just remember, the common sense rule remains true: The more expensive a ride, the more the driver will earn. But driver will also receive fewer ride requests.

As a recap, here is how much a driver would earn on an average 4-mile, 15-minute trip:

  • UberX: $4.87 Total
  • UberXL: $9.65 Total When you
  • UberSELECT: $13.25 Total
  • UberBLACK: $22.17 Total
  • UberSUV: $28.05 Total

From these numbers, you can tell that Uber drivers make good money driving with SELECT and other high-end vehicle options. The great part about these cars is you can still make extra cash by picking up lower level rides like UberX. If you’re just driving as a side-hustle, remember that your take-home pay isn’t purely profit. Since you are considered an independent contractor, you still need to factor in expenses like oil changes and gas, which will decrease your average earnings.


Frequently Asked Questions

The average Uber driver may not be making thousands per week, but that’s not to say that earning through ridesharing doesn’t have its perks. Here are our answers to three frequently asked questions to give you more insight into driving with Uber:

1. How do Uber driver earnings compare to Lyft driver earnings?

Uber drivers are known to make slightly less than Lyft drivers. We’ve found that a standard Lyft driver makes about $17.50 per hour, which is nearly $3 more than what Uber drivers make. Of course, your average Lyft wage (just like your average Uber wage) will vary based on location, how much you take advantage of promotions on Lyft, and how much you earn in tips.

2. How much money should I budget for expenses as an Uber driver?

It’s hard to estimate how many business expenses you’ll accrue as an Uber driver, as this can vary based on your car model, local gas prices, and the amount of repairs your car needs in a given year.

However, it’s estimated that drivers spend as much as $4.87 per hour on gas and maintenance after tax deductions are considered. Make sure to save your receipts for job-related expenses for tax season, so you successfully get your deductions and don’t spend more than this estimate.

Still, you can drastically reduce your costs over time by choosing a car with great gas mileage and sticking with a car maintenance schedule that prevents expensive repair needs.

3. How much commission does Uber take?

Uber has advertised that they take 25% commission from each ride, but we’ve found that Uber fees can be significantly higher. In some locations, it may even take over 40% of a total ride cost. Luckily, Uber commission is already taken into account when calculating how much Uber drivers make.

4. Do Lyft drivers earn a salary?

No, they do not. Like Uber drivers, Lyft drivers are independent contractors who do not draw a salary or receive any kind of set hourly wage.

5. Do Uber Eats drivers earn a salary?

Uber Eats drivers earn a fee for each delivery they complete. Like Uber drivers, they don’t get paid a salary.

6. Does Uber offer salaried jobs?

Absolutely. Uber has a variety of salaried, full-time jobs with competitive benefits. You can learn more on the Uber Careers page. The key thing to understand is that these are not driving jobs. They’re generally corporate office jobs that require a college degree, relevant experience, and a traditional job application and interview process.


Stay on Top of Your Earnings

Driving with Uber isn’t the highest paying job around, but it does grant you total control over your own hours. If you drive wisely, taking advantage of surge pricing and promotions, you can exceed $20 per hour with a standard UberX car. It’s a great side hustle or full-time gig for anyone who loves being behind the wheel and starting conversations, especially if you put some effort into your work.

If you’re ready to enter the gig economy as a rideshare driver, sign up at our invite link or with the code “prgey” to claim your local driver bonus today.

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  1. Gordon Says:

    For $49, I bet you don’t mind!

  2. Tony Says:

    Haha I work as an actual cabbie and lease 24/7 so I also have flexibility. I don’t have to risk any of my assets and yet I make 3 1/2 times what Uber drivers make in my town (according to what they say). That’s OK though, the world never runs out of desperate suckers that just happen to have a car they can burn out.

  3. adam Says:

    I drove for Uber for 3 weeks than I quit, too much stress for the money, Uber was taking 20% now they take 25%, because of a lot of demand, they always try to impress the driver about how much they make an hour !! who care about hourly wage ? we are doing business here we are not employees, how much Uber make an hour ? in the future if the business become more beneficial, they will take 50% and tell the driver “you still make 25$/hour don’t worry!!”. that mean the driver will never benefit of the grow of the business, exactly like any employee in any company.

  4. Al Says:

    I gave it up. Last weekend on Ocean City Maryland… a beach resort town about 7 miles in length had 14 Uber drivers. That is one for every 2500 feet. Uber just focuses on signing up new drivers… not the one they already have. Considering my commute to OC Saturday I drove 108 miles round trip and made $12.57. Didn’t even pay for the gas let alone wear and tear. Find something else to do… or try Lyft if it in in your city.

  5. Michael Says:

    I have been with Lyft for almost a year, Uber just signed up and i double dip about 4 hours a day.
    True: unless you run your car like a business, one will never make any money. And what you get paid the following week? Oh my. 25 percent goes to the company right away: then the gas has to be paid, then the taxes. I squirrel away 10 bucks from every check and the rest, if any, goes into my general fund. But, you need a full-time job to have the part-time one.

    Also: risk factor increases 150 percent. Insurance? I am paying 50 a month more because no one will insure me unless I do commercial at 400 a month or more like a limo…

    But, it can be cash flow if you control your time and mileage. Do not chase the cash: let the technology chase you. Keep mileage low, and don’t pick up outside of the 10 minute rule.

  6. Michael Says:

    Yoyo. What the other fella meant was, to make better than average money, you need to go to where the demand for rides are, the best times to go. One may earn way more in 4 hours from 10 p.m. – 2 a.m. daily, than working 8 hours a day, M-F.

  7. Michael Says:

    Good for you!

  8. Michael Says:

    This is why I control whom I pick up: if a ride is more than 10 minutes out of my comfort zone, I may bag him at the risk of a ding on my acceptance. I have to consider the cost to my business of driving 20 minutes to make 3.20 cents. On the other hand, If the ride is going my direction, I may go 12 minutes as one never knows that may also be a 35 dollar fare!
    Yesterday, for example, 3 rides earned me 80 bucks: I could have made more, but I dinged 3 rides for being out of my range….I do not chase money: I allow the technology to chase me.
    Plus, I do Lyft and Uber simutaneously. As a result, I keep busy more and may the best rider win!

  9. M.F. Says:

    Once few early earning incentives ended (2016), My earnings dropped to under $10 hr in Seattle. I must drive 25 miles to get to the “designated target” areas of Seattle meaning I I pay ALL that-car payment/maintenance/insurance/gas/ taxes fees for my Acura which essentially means Uber REQUIRES me to “bring MY OWN expen$ive equipment so I gain the privilege of working for them! Ultimately I use my car to act as a shuttle for the thousands of Amazon (for example) employees going to their many downtown buildings! I offer a warm clean car with leather seats in winter, bottled water, chargers for their phones, even heated seats plus warm cheerful conversation. Additionally as a woman/
    retired college graduate , I’m risking a lot but even though I offer so much , I get no tips what does Uber do? Lower fares! DON’T FALL FOR THEIR HYPE ADVERTISING GREAT EARNINGS. Ultimately, it’s not worth it at all. YOU provide an expensive car, take all the risks, and Uber drops your wages. TOTAL RIPOFF

  10. Mark Says:

    The writer might be correct about the analyses of Uber and Lyft, but this is a poor comparison:

    “Airbnb only takes 3% in fees. That sounds a lot more reasonable when you consider Uber and Lyft drivers are providing all the equipment needed for the job and taking on enormous personal risk.”

    When you consider the expensive equipment provided by and enormous personal risk taken on by an AirBnB host, the risk to a rideshare driver pales in comparison.

  11. Trance_man Says:

    [Uncle Ran Teamsters Union under Jimmy Hoffa Jr. UBER = Abuse to Labor Force]

    I’ve tried UBER for 2-3 months, I did the math. An UBER driver like me makes about $10 or less in Las Vegas per hour. I’m not even factoring in additional expenses.

    I was brought up in a family (My Uncle was one of the top union leaders in the USA w Jimmy Hoffa Jr.) I see abuse here towards drivers & working conditions. All UBER drivers should go on strike for this terrible pay and treatment.

    UBER makes a ton sitting on their asses. There is no way to reach them simply (by the drivers/partners lol), I keep hearing about women getting abused by drivers, etc. (Attempted home invasions, assault), the women tell me they get no proper attention at UBER/LYFT when complaining.

    I wish I had time to organize a proper response by all you drivers out there to stick it to UBER & LYFT. I know how unions work, you all need to organize, wake up one day, turn off the UBER app & strike! What is the USA coming to

  12. Jmcaul Says:

    It seems like it might be time for a driver owned service that has profit sharing.

  13. lucian Says:

    I think your plan is good you will in fact meet people.

  14. Commentor Says:

    You’re going to drive for Uber to gain clients for your financial advisory business? Do you really think anyone with real money is going to trust an Uber driver to dispense meaningful investment advice? It’s very unlikely, as many rich people didn’t get that way by being stupid. I’m not saying your advice would be stupid, but generally speaking, people with money are not going to take financial advice from people of mediocre means.

    Smart people only take financial advice from rich people (with a grain of salt, of course, since there is always the prospect of being swindled).

  15. Grant Suhm Says:

    Problems with wages could be solved by Uber allowing post trip tipping online like Lyft does. There are two times Uber is profitable for drivers in College Station, Texas. 9:00 pm until 3:00 am Friday and Saturday nights.

  16. foxy fox Says:

    also consider hacking from law enforcement which they have their own rates or $25 to $50 aday if lucky or $100 a week regardless of how much you gross.make $ 700 and your take would $1 a mile overall. uber and lyft dont care since they get their share.

    1. elkscout Says:

      this makes absolutely no sense. care to expound?

  17. rob Says:

    I don’t currently itemize my deductions. Uber is only for part time work Would I still be able to claim mileage deduction?

  18. MikeDNC Says:

    Helpful correction: The first map shows *average per trip*, NOT average per hour.

    1. MikeDNC Says:

      It’s also almost from mid-2015, when rates were much higher.

  19. Frank Says:

    i drive in Miami last week i push my self to 100hour online and i made $1247 if you not put hour online u not making money!

  20. Frank Says:

    I drive only XL , in Miami. Anyway mostly you make $10 per hour. if you don’t put online hour in system , app not give u trip. if you have lot off hour online ,you don’t need stand in hotel door beacos you get trip ! Try !

  21. Frank Says:

    i can’t wait pay off my car and I’m out , I’m out so far way i don’t whanna member ever this days
    . you wake up morning and all you can think how much you can make today , its call ( UBER GAMBELING )so you can pay end week all you bill. i fell sorry for driver how own bank like 50-60K for car payment. i still own like 16k , i push my self to pay off end summer .

  22. Cameron Says:

    It costs $0.50 to $0.80 per mile to run your own vehicle, nice article but would be better if the writer spoke English better

  23. jd Says:

    If you think your going to make a lot of money driving for Uber you are in for a big shock, I tried it and gave it a good try, found I was averaging $.6.62 cents per trip, and that was before I took out for gas.The discounted fares and the no tip policy make it almost impossible to make a decent profit. If anyone tells you that they are making a lot of money are delusional, lying or in a very unique situation. If you were a bartender or waiter or waitress would you work in a place that paid you a few dollars more an hour but told you you can’t make any or very little tips? The answer is no unless you were totally desperate. Do yourself a big favor and forget it.

  24. Henry Says:

    I saw your website before I signed up and I gave a try. If you have a C-Max or those electric cars you can save money on Gas, I have a Ford Focus SE Full Loaded Hatchback 2013 and sometimes my poor car suffer with those bad riders and they dont even care if I have leather seats and then they slams the door. I am still doing Uber and I know I can hit those amount like you but lets face the true. Post everything on your website…. like… How many hours are you driving per week and how much money comes from Promotions to hit those $2,000.00 listed in your web. (i.e I made $2,400.00 in 82 hrs approx.) and that’s including those $765 in promo, after taxes and gas expense, was about $1,600.00 to $1,800.00. I didn’t count depreciation on this. I am saving good money because I already have full time job but at the same time I am killing my car doing Uber. Now I am waiting for good promos, 35 trips for $90 it doesnt compensate my time. I am still new but I got in less than 30 days 66 – 5 Star

  25. Sidemouse Says:

    I tried this for about a week, on and off. Granted I could still improve in a lot of ways and that would maximize my income considerably but presently I have lost interest as I am basically paying Uber to work. I’m not 18 anymore. I’m 50 years old and I have an older car with a 4 cylinder all paid for. My insurance is minimum liability and I have a perfect driving record, all in all things should be profitable from that end but it’s not. 11 hours online, $45 revenue (that’s after Uber take but before all expenses). I think I’ll go fill up the gas tank and call it a good learning experience.

  26. RR Says:

    Don’t drive for uber they are dishonest and deceiving! If you have gas card keep all your receipts! I went from 6 cyc car that took 91 oct. gas to a 4 cycl that took regular gas, I am not showing the savings. I leased the 4cyl $173 a week for 5 weeks straight on the 6th week they took $310.00. They are screwing their drivers in every way they can. Don’t use there gas card they want to reward you with and don’t lease a car through them. Last Aug. I made a little over $2000 in fares shows on my 1099 after I deducted their share, the amount they took for my car and the gas. I made $414. I kid you not. You are not your own boss in order to make money you have to drive the hours they want to give bonuses. You wont make money any other time so they are making a schedule by setting 3x bonus from 4am to 6am in S.F. Financial district. Right there they have already scheduled you a time and place to drive. I signed up to add stating now hiring in Antioch $35 hr driving, set your own sched

  27. RR Says:

    cont. from below Did I ever make $35 an hour in Antioch? If I made $35 an hour it never made it to my pocket! I had to drive into the city S.F. to make any kind of money and I had to pay a toll every time I went there up to $6.00. Hey don’t take a strangers word for it. Find out for your self keep all your receipts and what you have read in the back of your head with an open eye what to watch out for. Oh yeah if your your own boss then they shouldn’t be able to take you off plate form! only you can fire you! Their insurance have you and your passengers covered while on their platform? LOL Sure after you pay their $1000 deductible even if you weren’t at fault! If you are rear ended in CA your not at fault!

  28. Bob Says:

    Too funny, have you sold any books at all? I know there is a sucker born everyday. Are you from Nigeria?

  29. don Says:

    uber will eventually be a crap shoot job that most people won’t consider. At first, 2015, I did alright, between 10 and 20 an hour. But that was NET not including cost of gas, business taxes (which are very high, look them up it will scare you out of considering driving for uber) and mostly the cost of the car. If you’re car has less than 20,000 miles on it, DO NOT drive for uber, it will be destroyed within a few months. I just bought a new car because uber and lyft drivers basically trashed the rear of my crown vic. I was burning gas like I was trying to consume all the oil in the world, and I’d go through a set of brake pads every 6 months. Not to mention, tell your insurance company you drive for uber or lyft and they’ll jack your rate even though technically if something happens on a ride your under uber or lyfts policy. I put like 20,000 miles on my crown vic in like 6 months. It was at 78,000 when I got it, and the engine needed everything at 100,000.

  30. don Says:

    after seeing how the uber owner talked to that driver, I won’t ever turn the app on again. Its just his scheme to make joe schmoe all his money. At first when they only took 20% it was ok, but when they lowered the fairs and then raised the commision (obviously to compensate) I was making like $5 an hour some days. Its just a trashy scam so one guy can make a billion a year. I’d understand if he made like 50 million a year, but why do you have to slash everything down to nothing so you can be “uber” rich? Oh well doesn’t matter, your company will flat line. From what I’m reading about the IPO that still hasn’t released, its already starting to. Too many damn drivers too, if you can’t drive then don’t do this. I’ve been in so many uber rides where the driver didn’t have a clue what was going on. For you noob drivers, watch out for all the idiot riders that think they can be picked up literally anywhere. I’ve had people stand in the middle street thinking I can just stop.

  31. Patrick Reilly Says:

    I see so much negativity about driving for Uber. Some people make money at it and some people do not, simple as that. It is like any other job, if you aren’t good at it, you wont do well. I also see lots of people talking about how after expenses, you are left with nothing; are you guys not deducting your mileage or expenses at the end of the year?

    1. Was considering this, but... Says:

      @Patrick Reilly, in deducting expenses, you simply don’t have to pay *taxes* on the amount of income equal to those expenses. Of *course*, everyone should be sure to claim these deductions — otherwise, you’re paying taxes on money you’re not really making! You’re still out the expenses.

  32. Bob Says:

    drive in Phoenix. The reality is almost no one tips. The average is only 5%. The facts are I earn an average of 7.50 per call before expenses. The average is 3 calls every 2 hours. to complete the required 85 calls a week you must drive 57 hours a week. You will earn $677 before gas and spend 20% on gas or about $130.00 a week leaving you $547 a week if you calculate 57 hours at 40 hours regular time and 17 hours at overtime that is 65.5 hours or  $8.35 an hour is what I actually get paid and that is without benefits.

  33. Harpal Singh Says:

    very low income making as a uber driver

  34. Was considering this, but... Says:

    I think what bothers me the most about all the complaints by Uber drivers is not only that they HAVE been squeezed by Uber’s lowering of prices and commissions, but that the whole Uber application basically can be run and monitored 24/7 by a handful of programmers on a few servers, along with a bit of customer support staff. (Btw, DRIVERS should be treated by Uber as customers, too.) Obviously, the company has grown to much more than that, but most of that growth does NOT benefit the drivers who provided much of the RISK and capital needed for that expansion. Thousands upon thousands of drivers are being drawn in pie-in-the-sky promises while only a small percentage seem to be satisfied with their earnings — and I seriously doubt that many of those have actually taken everything into consideration. In the final analysis, it seems that a VERY LOW percentage of drivers are really making what they thought they would — while the owners of Uber rake in BILLION$$$.

  35. Old-timer Says:

    As a former software developer who has worked on very large projects, I can assure you that a solid Uber app can be done for less than the amount sated here — nonetheless, I’m sure that Uber spends far MORE on it. (The greater the profit potential, the more money is plowed into it, whether it makes sense or not. It usually boils down to office politics.) Uber is drunk with income and keeps getting drivers to sign up (largely based on reputation earned when they let drivers keep MORE money than they do now), so they spend like drunken sailors on expansion, fattening their cash cow. As long as drivers are satisfied with ever-dwindling returns on their OWN investments (of time AND money), Uber will continue to get Uber-huge off a very simple concept and a lot of DRIVERS’ work and investments. Of course, Uber is taking a bunch of money provided by drivers to develop driverless cars! Driving for Uber must feel like sleeping with the Devil. In fairness, Lyft doesn’t seem any better.

  36. Old-timer Says:

    That’s absolutely fantastic if you can pick up a fare on the way to going somewhere you were headed for anyway. That truly would lower a driver’s operating expenses enormously (entirely, if they get in and out of the car at the precise points at which the driver does). That is NOT how most Uber rides happen — not by a long shot. If that were how ALL Uber rides went, most riders would be calling cabs for lack of available Uber drivers when and where they actually NEEDED rides. Oh, and Uber would have been such a flop that we would never have heard of it and this very web page wouldn’t even exist.

  37. Old-timer Says:

    If you are making $2,500 BEFORE expenses for driving 6,000 miles, you are LOSING money. There’s a REASON the IRS lets you deduct over $3,200 for the expense of driving that far: that’s about what it COSTS YOU, everything considered.

  38. Jesus Says:

    the cost per mile driving my car is .54 cents uber pay me .90 minus 20% I get .72 cents per mile uber is taken advantage of drivers … in a 5 to 10 minute ride uber make more than drivers they increase the buking fee to 2.30 in Orange county the rider paid 6.00 and driver takes 2.56 ..not good!!!!!!!

  39. Kristy Sterling Says:

    i want to become a partner

  40. alex Says:

    with an app clone in a big city like miami chargin 6% a lot of dealss

  41. ATLDriver2Weeks Says:

    Lyft is a joke. Nobody tips. You can’t even tell this as a driver or how you are being rated each time. It is just a summary rating. Nothing about tips. When they pay you, it is fee after fee. My first two days I made $80 driving stupid $5 trips wasting gas and idling in traffic. I spent $30 in gas. My pay from Lyft was $59 using express pay because I needed more has money. FOr two days of driving and just subtracting gas and what I had left was $29. That was about 11hrs work. You can drive to more profitable areas but then you now have a 1 hr ride in traffic to each way. The worst is when you just drop one passenger off and are headed a particular direction because that’s the lane you’re in an you suddenly get a pick-up and need to be 3 lanes over. This happens 1/3 trips. You then do a u-turn. The rider is now calling wondering why you are heading the wrong way.

  42. Lala Says:

    Seriously, how much does Uber pay per mile?? I was getting .90 a mile and now its .667. I just get generic text messages when I text with questions. Whats best… Uber or Lyft??

  43. Rick Says:

    I like how a lot of the people here are saying Uber is the “bad one” in the equation. This is a Capitalist society and this company is doing uneducated, lazy, and untalented (not a sum of all people, but still a large sum) people a favor by supplying a means to earing income. Why would you sign up for an Agency, such as Lyft or Uber, and then COMPLAIN about pay? Sit at home and do nothing, and earn nothing then! Yet, besides having no other answer then simple baby math followed by the comments “it’s not fair, they are so evil, they rip off poor us” blah blah blah. Besides them “ripping off” stupid people who don’t know that to make money a company HAS to be smarter then the employees that work for them, what is the problem?

  44. Dan Says:

    @Rick. The article used numbers to educate people on how Uber/Lyft is not as great a deal as their marketing department makes it sound. It argues that after expenses, we are better off working at McDonalds and advertised “average pay” is disingenuous.

    Now let me correct your logic error regarding this society.

    You can say we are a society of capitalists, you could even say we are society which uses capitalism for its people, but you can’t say we are a capitalist society. In so you arguing that you and I are the property of and serve capitalism. Which is just not true. The truth is we are a free society, a society of people serving its people and capitalism is only there to serve us.

  45. john Says:

    sounds like uber is a scam for the drivers.

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  47. Epix Says:

    when I activate my uber I usually just choose the option of picking up someone on my way toward where I’m going. I don’t end up losing money. I end up making money. Today, I picked up someone on my way to work and the passenger works 3 blocks from me. So I didn’t end up losing anything.

  48. Rick Says:

    @Dan You think you are living in a free society? Man you must be smoking something good. You are given liberties, not freedoms. Please learn the difference. Also, where did you go to school? I have never heard anyone think (well educated that is) that the U.S. is not a PRIME example of what being Capitalist is 100% about. My God you must live under a rock, or are part of the society that I mentioned. I clearly know the intent of the article, as I am well versed in rhetoric and sales; the sad truth is that these comments are not about the information presented…they defend the stupidity of people saying that Uber is “monstrously” ripping off poor ‘ole American’s and it’s just not fair. Please understand to read comments deeper than just being “offended”. How can you and I not be considered capitalist? Do you work for the state? Is your gains meant to be shared with the masses? No, you work for YOURSELF, to increase YOUR OWN wealth…let’s look up what “capitalism” means shall we?

  49. Alyssa Says:

    I don’t see a lot of these as costs. My car is used for personal use and I’d use it no matter what. So there is no expense for the car. License and permit fees? Gotta pay that too no matter what. Same with insurance….repairs? Our cars are leased and right now my 1 car is under miles by 5000 miles and that’s just in year 1….so I have lots of excess miles to spare. In addition—my car has a bumper to bumper warranty for the life of the lease….so no repair costs other than tires and possibly break pads. Even oil changes are covered with our lease. Gas is really the only expense that we would incur.

    1. phil Says:

      once you mention to your insurance that you are driving for uber, they will increase the cost. license and permits are for full timers. The more you drive for uber the more wear and tear there are, and the faster the maintenance and repairs occurs. 5k is one month driving for uber. companies will not let you lease a car if you are driving for uber. The article did not mention that gas and mileage on the car to drive to the passenger. drivers dont get paid for that. There’s the time to spend on cleaning the car, and the tickets you will get. The more you are out there with the car, the more likely you will be ticketed.

  50. Jay Says:

    The biggest mistake drivers make is calculating the mileage they drive. If you take a $.50 per mile deduction under IRS rules you need to count ALL of the miles you Uber. Uber reports the fare miles but the deduction is for travel to and during the fare. I often have to drive 12 miles to get a 3 mile fare, nature of the city actually town, I live in. I take an odometer reading at the beginning and end of each shift. The two main calculations you need to do Are: How much am I making per mile of driving (effective) and How much do I make for the time spent driving (earnings). Its part time contract labor for a company that has an asshole executive. You decide if this is right for you. I’ve done it and made a few bucks. Good place to get extra cash or use as a short term safety net. The one kudo I will give the company is that the app works better than most and they pay you in less than a week. Most people will tip if you post a sign in the car saying that you appreciate tips.

  51. Pips Says:

    The article here goes over costs really well, and it appears that working at McDonalds is an alternative in some areas. Here is my problem with this. With McDonalds, you’re working their shifts, limited in hours (or worked to the bone). You’re forced to work those hours to stay employed by them. Uber lets you work those hours on your own, and these are hours that you can do as much or as little as you want. If you know you need x amount to make it through the month, you can work it till you get it. Have a vacation you want to work, you can work those extra hours and get that money. Feel like crud? Don’t work. Weather is awful? Don’t work. The cost of being the keeper of your own hours is nearly priceless for many people. Is it astonishing that the wages are close to minimum wage? Yes. But tradeoffs are in all jobs. Now that tipping is preferred with Uber and Lyft, I think you’ll see it thrive more.

  52. Pasquale Says:

    I drive Uber. I find my GROSS hourly is $15 if i am lucky. I am trying to supplement my income by $500 mo. by uber, but it is failing. 20% seems like too big a bite to me. Seeing the other comments, im FUBAR if I try and switch to LYFT. Lease payment, gas, insurance….all on me!

  53. Pasquale Says:

    oh, and you have to spend time in your vehicle…..who knew

  54. Paul Says:

    How is it that Ive had fairs that pay $7.61 and uber get $3.90 and i get $3.71 thats a 50/50 split ????????

  55. lakoya ross Says:

    I understand that the expenses for your car add up over time however, as a contractor, your car payments, gas mileage, and any additional related expenses are tax right offs. Keeping track of all of your expenses will balance out the expenses on your taxes and therefore void the cost of the expenses in the long run, so technically drivers are making far more than minimum wage.

  56. Pat Cardamone Says:

    When UBER & LYFT claim minimum $$$ per hour they are talking about time elapsed specifically during each pick-up and delivery. A driver’s actual time in the car may be 8 hours, and his UBER/LYFT app only accounts for the percentage when a passenger (s) is in the car. So that may be 5 to 6 hours. At any other job $$$ per hour would mean from the time you turn the driver app on until you turn it off. Between costs for gas, insurance, care maintenance, depreciation, lunch/coffee, and passenger enhancements – it is impossible to make minimum wage.

  57. Pat Cardamone Says:

    lakoya ross – write offs do not void the costs – you are only given a % of the write off on taxes, not 100%.

  58. Pat Cardamone Says:

    lakoya ross – write offs do not void the costs – you are only given a % of the write off on taxes, not 100%.

  59. m Says:

    Although the net end result is minimum wage compensation, I think many out there will take the flexible scheduling in addition to not having a superior to report to. There’s also a large unemployed segment who may be (initially) overjoyed to be making an income…

    Then again, there are many new drivers who may not be savvy enough to do the complete math equation.

  60. m Says:

    stupid uber actually discouraged tipping! Uber stated IN WRITING that if tips are offered, drivers should decline first and only accept if the passenger INSISTS! stupid UBER CEO! as if you are the only one who deserves to eat! Glad you resigned!

  61. const Says:

    no one makes money with uber only uber makes and the city taking the cut from every ride to day i made in 7h as friday 7/7/17 Manhattan NYC 48$ last weak i made 28$ for 12$online fuck them and the city who control them …are the new generation of slavery

  62. const Says:

    if some one intend to invest some money to drive for uber you gone lose 100% and they fisrst destroy your car with the promotion misleading

    1. DW Says:

      First of all, I am sick and tired of hearing people complain that Uber is not paying drivers enough and the company is making too much money. I’ll say this. It is VERY FAIR regardless of how much or how little you are paid. It is very fair because nobody forced you to drive for Uber or Lyft. If you think your time and effort is better spent doing something else, then don’t drive for them. If enough drivers leave, they will have to pay more to attract drivers. The reason they get away with paying what they pay is because are sufficient drivers who think is sufficient for them to continue doing it. It’s called Demand and Supply. And, NOTHING IS FAIRER. If I offer you $5 to water my lawn and you think your time is better spent elsewhere, don’t do it. If you do it, don’t complain! Why do you want the government or some other entity deciding how much I can offer you or how much you can accept to water my lawn? How is that fair?

  63. Melissa Says:

    I just started driving UBER and was trying to figure out my hourly wage. I hear a lot about the down time/mileage/wear and tear on car etc. and was trying to figure it all into my calculations. I started thinking about the fact that most people I know in my area (Tacoma/Seattle) have over an one hr commute each way and put at least 60 miles a day on their cars if they drive. Any job I would get would have time and mileage commitments and I think this is a way better alternative. (Including the discount on my cell phone bill and the fuel Rewards card.) What would be a realistic way to figure out what I am making per hr?

  64. Tim B Says:

    Your driver expense list is missing several items, depreciation of the vehicle (the car is less valuable from a resale perspective with each mile driven and at some point will need to be replaced), time and miles incurred before first pickup, between rides, and getting home after the last ride. In general the mileage is not driver compensation, but expense reimbursement for the use of the car. While drivers might come out ahead (a little) on mileage, this really is not compensation.

  65. DW Says:

    First of all, I am sick and tired of hearing people complain that Uber is not paying drivers enough and the company is making too much money. I’ll say this. It is VERY FAIR regardless of how much or how little you are paid. It is very fair because nobody forced you to drive for Uber or Lyft. If you think your time and effort is better spent doing something else, then don’t drive for them. If enough drivers leave, they will have to pay more to attract drivers. The reason they get away with paying what they pay is because are sufficient drivers who think is sufficient for them to continue doing it. It’s called Demand and Supply. And, NOTHING IS FAIRER. If I offer you $5 to water my lawn and you think your time is better spent elsewhere, don’t do it. If you do it, don’t complain! Why do you want the government or some other entity deciding how much I can offer you or how much you can accept to water my lawn? How is that fair?

  66. DW Says:

    Secondly, I tried it about a year ago for a while. In the SF Bay Area, I find that I can average about $30~40/hour gross. However, that is with some caveats. I didn’t driver a lot. In fact, I didn’t drive except when there was surge pricing and special bonus rates. That amounted to 10~12 hours a week, maybe. I also live about 15 minutes from the SF Airport and being near a hotspot helps. I also have a car that is considered Uber Select and that opens up rides at a higher price.

  67. DW Says:

    Finally, I didn’t buy the car to Uber. I had a work-from-home job which paid $120 K/yr and I didn’t Uber as my primary income. It was just a way to get a good $1500 a month which covered the car payments and gave me some toy money at very low tax rates (because of all the deductions). It also got me out of the house for about 2 hours a day so I didn’t get moldy. For that purpose, I think Uber is fine. I can see how the returns per hour will go down if you have to work longer hours, less lucrative times and make it a primary income.

  68. Marie Says:

    Does Uber ding the drivers who have low ratings and don’t give them rides? I live in the bay area and I am busy the entire time. I average $20 per hour or more depending if it’s surge time. I do not make that much only because I work full time. That does not leave much time to drive. I have heard that is much better to take the mileage write-off versus the maintenance costs. Possibly make quarterly estimated tax payments for federal and state taxes if you make any serious money.

  69. Claire Burger Says:

    Everyone is always talking Lyft over Uber. These wages are comparable in most of the country $11/hr after all is said and done, but what accountability do we have for supporting the corporate culture. We still live in a world where money compensates us for spending time doing things we would probably not do without the payment, why not buy into companies that create and nurture environments and compensation ppl desire, not need to barely make it?

  70. MG Says:

    Do passenger vans make more then the averages above? I’m contemplating… Thanks in advance.

  71. Clarence Atha Says:

    I came to Uber just a couple of weeks ago, I was under the impression that they only took 20%. Yet, as I came to find out they are taking 30 to 45% of the fares on the avg. I’ll be taking my efforts elsewhere. Just another example of economic bullshit this country is becoming famous for. Oh, I made billions of dollars creating a business. Well let us see how we can screw it up for the people that were making the money for them in the first place.

  72. tukeind Says:

    Yeah…what is up with that…I had a rider a few days ago who instructed his friend to step into the highway the moment red light changed so that he could get into car in the middle of the highway.

  73. Miss Lizzy Says:

    Wow, I’m all for capitalism but trying to figure out what you will actually make is business-wise. The wear and tear on your vehicle is an important factor, as is, the extra depreciation of that vehicle for high mileage.

    1. Miss Lizzy Says:

      Additionally, it might look good initially, but most businesses net about 20% so if Uber or Lyft take 20%, then you are basically working for tips and not being compensated for the real cost of operation of your vehicle. People talking about it brings it out into the open. Doesn’t mean they are complaining but when a company makes it seem like you have an opportunity to earn a decent amount and the truth that isn’t likely, don’t you want to know that up front?

  74. Miss Lizzy Says:

    That’s true. The first time I used Uber for a ride, they made it seem like tipping was not necessary and basically included since they are getting 80% of the fare. That guy was a complete jerk anyway but still.

  75. bon Says:

    boston numbers remain the same in your example of wages minus expenses from chart to chart whereas all other cities change

  76. az Says:

    why copy and paste your comment lazy ass should have wrote something new

    1. Oi Says:

      He is a troll. He`s bragging about his 120k/year salary too. lol What a loser.

  77. deb Says:

    Hurdlr is something that will really help Uber drivers. It tracks ALL of your miles, not just the ones for the trips, but the miles to and from the trips as well. Let’s face it, the money isn’t good for Uber, so why pay extra taxes that you don’t need to on it as well? I busted my but for 16 hours yesterday and only made $98 after gas. This isn’t including depreciation and maintaining the car. (Why am I doing it? Desperate of course. A lot of us are on the edge right now.) Anywho, it sucks to only make less than $6 an hour, BUT, the tax writeoffs for the day with mileage were $48. If you also have high tax liability on other side gigs you are doing, these tax writeoffs are a god send–especially if you have a very fuel efficient car. Hurdlr also helps you track business expenses if you want to link bank accounts. Very helpful to keep the government from finishing the job after we get done screwing ourselves over with low wage work. 😉

  78. Khan Says:

    I drove Uber for two weeks in Los Angeles… Uber is a new Walmart type of employment…Humm! actually NO… its worst then working at Walmart… you slave yourself with your own asset for extremely cheap fares and Uber takes 30-50% of the fare…Don’t believe me…. try it yourself for few weeks.

  79. Kat Says:

    some people don’t live in a world where they can “just work someplace else”

  80. FA Says:

    UBER at one time was not too bad as far as earnings then they cut the rate and I’m making under $6 per hour, wont be working too long at this rate

  81. T Says:

    All these comments are just drivers discouraging you to not drive Uber because the market is getting saturated lmao

  82. MatthewT Says:

    I made at my best last week 41.19 an hour and my worst was 14.45 an hour not including tips. I provide candy, chargers, and water. My 8 day average was 15.92/hr AFTER expenses

  83. Ernie Says:

    I do think rideshare drivers don’t get paid enough however, isn’t car maintenance, insurance, car payment, and gas expenses present whether you are a driver or not? What about if you commute an hour each way to work every day. Do you consider the cost of commuting into your salary? I suppose you would in your personal budget, but you wouldn’t consider those expenses when reporting your income. Just reflecting, when thinking about net and gross income in general.

  84. R Says:

    If you’re in the NYC area dont forget to take into account you’ll need a TLC license AND commercial drivers insurance, which is like an extra $3,000-8,000 a year.

  85. E Says:

    It doesn’t really sound like many of you know anything about the taxi business or have worked as a taxi driver to begin with. Because if you work for somebody else you only make 30% and owners I’ve taxi companies are multimillionaires so somebody is getting Rich from the other side always Uber is giving you opportunity to be your own boss and manage your own cost if you’re smart enough to do so

  86. Nick Says:

    Uber makes all the money in the end . As a uber driver i know they take almost the half of the fair . But what can we do . Uber should pays the driver good . This way uber can make there driver happy .

  87. Justubering Says:

    People are voicing out because the way it is conducted. Drive and make 20 to 30 dollars an hour. Over all for most it’s less than 10 dollars an hour. Check it out.

  88. Mr T Says:

    I have about 6,000 rides on the two platforms as a driver.
    1. New drivers take a 25% hit, not 20%.
    2. When Uber advertises $XX per hour, they mean BEFORE the 25% is subtracted.
    3. I get in-app tips on Uber about 10% of the time and on Lyft about 50% of the time.
    4. Payment for mileage and time varies by city. Portland, OR the miles are $1.15 and the time is $.20, before 25% is deducted.
    5. My average uber ride pays me $3.75. My average Lyft ride pays me $8.50 after average tips. I get more uber requests, but make more on average with Lyft.
    6. I put in about 60-70 hrs per week, and take home around $1,200-1,300 before gas or anything else is factored in.
    7. I realize that 1,000 miles per week kills the value of my car. But I need the money. Life’s a bitch.

  89. Lady rider Says:

    Guys, I love the Uber service. Really, thank you. I always tip well, and love the fact that I can now tip online (vastly improves chances for a good tip). Question: if I have a long ride, say a two hour distance, would you make more or less than a typical days fares of taking people 15 minutes between here and there?

    1. Mr T Says:

      Yes, much more if a long distance. BUT, you will likely drive out of your coverage area, which means when the ride is over you spend hours driving back for free.

  90. John Says:

    Unfortunately I find that your article has some information that is not really accurate. When you say that you can make $10 for a 15-minute ride that is not accurate because I took a half an hour ride and I got paid the same $10 for the half an hour that the app said it would take. You talked about handing out water bottles candy and gum so that you can get more tips I’ve been doing this for as long as I can remember and I still get no tips whatsoever so I waste more money. People don’t tip me no matter how nice I am I even asked if the air conditioning is fine if the music is okay and I still get nothing. Seems like making money with Uber is very hard you rarely if ever get pinged for a ride I spend more money on expenses than I do in getting profits that I make it’s not even worth it anymore. Fortunate for me I don’t have any car payments and I calculate my insurance from my work paycheck not my Uber earnings. If you’re ok with making pennies and dimes go for it otherwise I say no.

  91. Fozzie Says:

    If you guys don’t like the pay that Uber is offering, and you think that they’re ripping you off, feel free to pay your bills by applying for a job at McDonalds instead. That you do crappy at Uber doesn’t mean that it can’t be profitable. I take home 1500-1800 per week. Maybe you’re just doing it wrong…

    1. johnnie Says:

      how much of that do you have to put back in the business vs the money you ( keep )…….?

  92. stewy Says:

    uber takes a huge cut of the amount paid for the ride —-many times 50%, the 20% is bs
    on a positive note–i work when i want for how long i want and can stop anytime–try that at ANY other job in the country and u will be immediately fired—-Uber is good if your expectations are adjusted and reay—easy money with NO hassel

  93. Scott M Stolz Says:

    Interesting analysis. I’m curious how it will look when you factor in taxes and deductions as well since you have to pay income tax like any worker has to, but you get business deductions and write offs that employees don’t have. But then you also have the self-employment tax on top of the income tax. Factoring this in might change the analysis even more.

  94. lolk Says:

    meavery? Lol I’m not sure that word means what you think it means. Simply quit!

  95. lolk Says:

    Oops should say “slavery”

  96. jerry Says:

    Uber and lyft are rider friendly, but driver’s killer

  97. Don Says:

    I drove this morning for UBER. 4 Riders over 3 hours and I totaled $21. Minus $8 for gas and I made a whole $13 in 3 hours. That equates to $4.33 per hour!. Not to mention I now have to pay tax on that money, plus the wear and tear on my car. I figured I made about $1.50 per hour. This was supposed to make me $100 on a weekend. Hah – what a laugh! I will try it one more weekend and that’s it. A complete bummer.

  98. Tom Says:

    I haven’t seen an article explain about how all the costs that drivers are spending is tax deductible. It’s your own business essentially, so any costs you encure would be tax deductible. So by saying these drivers have to spend so much money and get taxed so much, doesn’t work so simply. I bet drivers could maybe make more with these factors in place.

  99. David Says:

    Probably not a good long term career, obviously but one benefit is you can work when you want to work and take time off whenever you feel like it, unlike a regular job. Easy job to get if you are unemployed and desperate.

  100. DJ Says:

    Hey now, it’s not just for unemployed people. It’s for ANYBODY looking for extra income

  101. Divina G Pappas Says:

    I’m not happy with UBER. I started Dec 2016 and the pay isn’t worth the WORK. The best thing for me is the people I drive for; worth more then I make in money.

  102. Divina G Pappas Says:

    Uber takes advantage of us drivers, respective to income…they are sharks!

  103. Allison Says:

    I absolutely LOVE driving Uber in conjunction with my other job and small businesses. I love interacting with people and I love driving. Each ride is an experience for me and for my clients. If you play the game strategically you can greatly increase your income. It also helps to have a personal mechanic on hand for unseen emergencies. I wouldn’t quit my day job but Uber is an option when fast, legal cash is needed. Sure it’s a risk but so is Life. I only drive when my energy, spirit, soul says drive. That way if anything God forbid goes wrong, I’m at peace with my decision to be in that place at that time. I’d suggest everyone who loves driving and loves people to at least try it out. If not for employment, try it for the experience. The stories I could tell you are priceless. I’m a powerful force in this world and for a small fare many people will get to experience that. Even if only for a moment #AllieUber

  104. coakl Says:

    As a self-employed contractor, YOU are required to pay BOTH the employer and employee shares of Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes.
    For a normal employer, employee share is Social Security (6.20% of gross) and Medicare (1.45% of gross).
    As a “gigger”, this is doubled to 12.40% and 2.90%, or a combined rate of 15.3%.
    You are required to pay that, ***plus any income tax.***
    In other words, every Uber/Lyft driver must take 15.3% of his pay and send that to Social Security/Medicare every quarter. You have to do similar quarterly payments for IRS income taxes.

    I wonder how many in the gig economy have “forgotten” that requirement and don’t pay it unless the IRS audits them.

  105. Kiko Says:

    In order to make good money it’s best to go downtown late at night (9-3am) on the weekends. You literally have to drive in circles because it chooses the closest driver. If you sit in one spot then your chances of getting a ride are slim. People pay more when they go out to bars to drink. I did this with lyft a few times and made roughly $20 an hour

  106. Ridester Says:

    I like where you’re going with this. Many drivers don’t know about fees and expenses, let alone the tax implications of driving. Want to guest post on the topic? Let me know by filling out the form at the bottom of this page: https://www.ridester.com/media-kit/

  107. Ridester Says:

    One thing to consider is dead miles, although I’ve also had success picking up rides as I drive around. The key here is small circles, that way you’re not wasting money on gas on putting unnecessary wear and tear on your vehicle.

  108. Kevin Says:

    I just had a fare that the rider was charged 38 dollars and I got 22. This is crazy as they make
    More than I do I would attached the breakdown but it is rediculous

    1. Ridester Says:

      Uber makes more than you do? How so?

  109. Louis Says:

    Ridester – have you ever ran the numbers on how it compares when you have an SUV or a vehicle that can handle 8 (total including driver) occupants?

  110. Mica Benedikt Says:

    This is hilarious!! Cant wait for uber to put self driving cars on the road and then you’ll be complaining that you are out of a job. Give me a break, you drive around all day, and get the luxury to use an app that tells you who to pick up, where to go, and how to get there, all you have to do is press buttons. You are not doing brain surgery. You want to get paid well, learn a valuable skill and get a job, don’t blame uber for your financial issues.

  111. Uptown Says:

    You also don’t have a clue about what’s happening with Uber and Lyft in terms of their long-term business prospects. Neither company is anywhere near being or becoming profitable, and neither can really explain how they could be.

    Here’s some pithy reading for you on that subject:

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/03/can-uber-ever-deliver-part-nine-1990s-koch-funded-propaganda-program-ubers-true-origin-story.html#_ednref2

    Uber has steamrolled the local markets in a number of big cities, and a lot of people imagine that must be because they’re so great. If they’re so great, why is their driver turnover rate 96% over the course of a year? Why are they losing more than any other startup in the history of the universe? It’s ludicrous, and it ought to be more than enough to tell prospective drivers what’s going on–things aren’t the way Uber and Lyft are claiming.

    The reality is that regulations have made Uber’s success a certainty. Specifically, TNCs are never capped in terms of the number of vehicles they can put into service–never–and in San Francisco, there are now over 10,000 Uber drivers, plus whatever number of Lyft drivers. What’s the largest number of taxis that ever rolled in S. F.? A few thousand? If you can overwhelm your competition numerically in a situation where response time to a request for service is the paramount factor in customer satisfaction, it doesn’t matter that much how you do the dispatching. If you have many times more cars than any competitor, you can get to calls faster–just that simple. The “app” by itself doesn’t have a damned thing to do with it. (If the “app” weren’t delivering fast service, nobody would give a crap–it would be another piece of gimmick software. The fast service is a result of the number of cars, not how slick the “app” is. The number of cars is the result of regulation–taxis couldn’t match the TNCs’ numbers even if the economics worked, because they always have a cap on vehicles in the big cities.)

  112. Gary Says:

    Not true. The more you drive at night the less money you will make! People are drunk, rude and obnoxious! They demand music , that usually sucks and is too loud. They either pee or throw up in your car and never ever tip. Plus you risk more accidents and your ratings get dinged. DO NOT DRIVE LATE AT NGHT unless you really want to suffer and you want to waste your time and money!

    Best time is early morning and evening rush hour.. In the morning you get business people that are sober polite, smarter and tip tip tip!

    Never drive in the afternoon either! Afternoon you just get families cheap people that want you to drive them 2 blocks to the nearest bus station. Your make 1.50 an hour! Sucks!

    Drive rush hour from 3 to 7PM ! Usually surging big demand! Tips etc.

    AFTER 7 or 8PM STOP! Unless you want to suffer ding your ratings and make NO MONEY!

    Been driving over 4 years. NO not full time! Otherwise I would have gone insane by now.

  113. Susan Says:

    One very important factor that you didn’t include is how far you have to drive to pick up that rider. If you have to drive a mile and a half to pick up a mile and a half fare then your out of pocket expenses are doubled.

  114. Andra R Davis Says:

    I see your estimate but I’ve been driving for Uber over 3 years in the Chicago area. The drivers in Chicago average out 16$ to $20 an hour after expenses. Chicago what I see when it comes to most of the Articles like yours is that you’re not informing people that Rideshare no matter who Uber or lyft is a business. You are going to have overhead. As well as what I have noticed when it comes to the drivers in Chicago more so the people do not work the platform correctly. They do two to three hours a day and call it full time, then want to blame the platform. If you work anywhere in America with just that number of hours a week you will not make anything. Yes your calculations were sufficient if you’re talking about someone that is not truly doing this for a living. Also you did not factor in that at the end of the year you are able to get deductions for most of the 20% that you put in to Uber. Like I said most people are not treating this as a business, that is the problem with them, not the platform. There’s no way in heck that you can truly compare McDonald’s with the potential that you have with Uber or Lyft.

  115. Jas Says:

    Pro Tips From A Former TAXI DRIVER :

    –Drive to an area where there IS a reasonable demand but NOT a lot of competition. The absolute best area I found like this was actually the ring of suburbs around the city and not the city itself. They tend to be middle class – to – wealthy, going reasonably far distances, and tip well. If you live near a city, you probably also live next to suburbs like these, and if you are the primary driver in the area you can really own it.

    –DO take the time to drive out to a good working area, but DON’T drive around looking for rides. Rides, much like the magic on any customer service floor, come in rushes. When things start to die down in your working area, head home, but leave your app on. You will probably come across another rash of fares and be able to make money as you make your way to your bedroom.

    –Turn down rides that don’t make sense if you can.

    –Try to finish your rides quickly. This includes getting there and not making wrong turns, which even a few small ones can add up to a lot of time. I’ve ridden with a lot of friendly but slow Uber drivers and while driving faster won’t save you on gas or wear on your car, you will save TIME and be able to make more money, faster. Plus, people like getting to where they have to go and feeling that you are invested in them getting there, too, and they will tip you for it.

    –Speaking of tips, I’ve often done favors for decent people and they tip well for that too, and even if they don’t, it’s still a nice karmic thing to do. You may as well do it because larger fares are more valuable than several smaller fares, both in time and gas because you don’t have to drive to a new location. Again, I do it when the person seems cool or to be kind and not “because” I want to get a tip.

    –Try to keep regular, but lucrative hours. Don’t waste a bunch of time sitting in your car doing nothing, ever. If you spend more than an hour (or two) stationary you should head home and do something else otherwise you are wasting your time and frustrating your efforts.

    I would say driving is not something I would choose as a full time job for the long term especially when you know someone else is making the big money, but it is a decent way to pay some bills or make some extra cash.

  116. Nancy tauber Says:

    You didn’t take into account I drive 25 miles to pick up a fare going 5 miles. or less

  117. Shaheed Says:

    I want to know the Tax implication of it. Rather than sending the tax every quarter, Can I just do all in one during the Tax months (April 15 or so) ? How would you get the tax paper..? Will it be just a self-employment on 1099?

  118. Frasi Says:

    As usual these articles are misleading and partially true, the article compare UBER earnings after all the expenses with the GROSS wage paid by Mc Donald, “forgetting” that when you work for a company that pays you hourly, you still have to pay taxes, put gas in the car to get to and from work, also, the article calculates the cost of insurance and car operating exclusively on UBER, while its clear that even if you would not drive for UBER, you will probably still need to have a car, therefore pay insurance, registration, tax, repairs, and so on, therefore, the $7.20 that you make working for, lets say, McDonald, its actually more like a $4 per hour, after expenses, and your car will still cost you a bunch, regardless if you drive for UBER or not.
    Not to mention that its one thing “working” sitting in your car, listening music, sipping coffee, or reading your favorite book, or striking a nice conversation with a passenger, when you like, and its a different story working standing on your feet 8 hours, following hours that they assigned to you, in a greasy, frying smelling environment, with a boss that tells you what to do all day.
    I would always chose the first option.
    The fact is that the earning wage for UBER should be calculated on the time you have a passenger in your car, because that is the real working time, not the time you are online.

  119. James Says:

    This is not accurate in any way shape or form, before expenses my income is 25-30/hr. After expenses it’s still 15-20

  120. Emob Says:

    you know you can just decline the fare that is 25 miles away right…lol

  121. susan Says:

    Should have said 0.864 per mile – so it’s 15 cents or so off.

    1. susan Says:

      wow, I need to take math over, actual computations should be costs of $5.35 (10 miles @ 0.53 cents per mile) vs. revenues of $5.83 so an actual gain of a few cents. If you get 3 of these rides an hour, you might make a dollar for your time. If you get pool rides, you lose. If you can do enough rides to get the Quest bonuses, that’s about what you’d make. It only makes sense if you have a low mileage older car. A new car will depreciate much too much.

  122. BROOKLYN Says:

    I ALWAYS tip my drivers 3$ dollars depending on the drive, distance, and what day it is (ive been known to throw them a 20$ on holiday or heavy evening) and i live in smaller town which is never more than 15 min ride. The newer way to tip on the app i think helps recoup for any of what they are estimating here…

  123. Joe Says:

    I’m not a driver, but used it a few times in a big city.
    IMO Uber should be taking like 5 – 10 percent if drivers make that little

  124. San Man Says:

    Uber takes almost 50 percent……

  125. Toby Reeves Says:

    I just finished my first week, and Uber took 40% of fares (not including tips) for the week. I had 7 rides for the week where Uber took 50% or greater. In one ride, rider paid $5.45. I received $2.25. Uber made $3.20 for 59%. My gross pay per online hours was $13.95 per hour for 26 trips and 183 online miles. This didn’t include the times I shut off the app and drove home from a location, which would add an extra 3 hours. After paying $35 for gas for the week for Uber (plus increased expected maintenance costs), I’m not sure it is worth it without tips.

  126. W Says:

    Which city are you driving in?

  127. jason d Says:

    I think you’re forgetting that you have to pay taxes on your uber income as well so that’s an unfair comparison to make. Also, while working for mcdonalds you are paid for every hour you are working in entirety. where i drive for uber (jersey shore area) i often spend about 40 minutes of each hour waiting for a ride request meaning i only make 1/3 of the typical uber hourly rate. i very rarely make more than minimum wage driving for uber after expenses. why do i do it? i like driving and sometimes i have time to kill so in those cases i don’t mind making 5 to 10 bucks an hour.

  128. Ready to Retire Says:

    As an independent contractor, you have to pay double FICA since you paying both the employer and employee share. You’re down 7.65% at the outset.

  129. Kitkat Says:

    Don’t forget.. Drivers are also suppossed to pay an self-employment tax, federal and state income taxes too! About 33% of net earnings. Not worth It at all, especially when u factor the time that u spend not only o online but in between trips. Lyft has even been trying to deactivate my account for cancelling Two trips last week, and asking a pax to cancel one this morning.

    It’s sat night, and I just had to pick up 4 pax that were going to NYC from Hoboken. 8.8 miles, 52 min. It would have taken me 2.5.to 3 hrs and I probably would have earned $10. How can they legitimately charge less than $4/ person for a one hour trip and pay drivers less than $5/ hr.. how can anyone live like this? And you dont know where anyone is going until u start the trip. Next time I am kicking them out! (Luckily I got into a car accident and they went with anin other driver. No damage, just a tap.. hehe) it was also pouring rain and would have cost me $15 to go home the easier way through Statin island.

  130. Alex Says:

    Its just like any job that involves tipping, if you put effort into it, you will make money. I drive in cleveland which i believe is one of the best cities to drive in because of almost no traffic and huge distances. I averaged out 22 to 25 an hour after gas putting in 40 hours a week with uber, with lyft it goes down. So it is possible, you just have to learn the neuances and so it the right way.

  131. Juan Says:

    I have been an Uber driver for Two weeks, all I can say is disappointment, hours worked, schedule, riders, rate, vehicle use and earnings.
    I work the weekends, Friday and Saturday, in a college town in Mississippi, in average a ride is 5:00 dollars, no tips, students don’t tip, plus, drunk riders, almost all of them claim to be rich, but no tips. I notice that after all expenses, what I take home is like 3 dollars an hour, less than minimum wage.
    My opinion is, not worth the risks and hazzle

  132. Nicky Says:

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  133. Todd Christenwen Says:

    I don’t think you’re factoring in that as an independent contractor, you can write off your expenses; you can write off $~.50 per mile. So that helps quite a bit…

  134. You left out the cost of a cell phone and plan in your expense breakdown — You can’t drive for Uber without a smartphone and wireless service, which can cost around $80 a month for the data and voice.

    1. Thanks for the heads up. We’ll add this in ASAP. By the way, we’re working on an article about the best cell phone plans for rideshare drivers, so stay tuned for that.

  135. Misty Says:

    In articles about how much Uber and Lyft drivers make, no one ever equates net profit earnings to how much mileage you put on your car, which is really the ultimate figure to look at.

    For example, if I drive FT (30-40 hrs per week) will I be putting, say, 500 miles a week on my car? I don’t know, since I am not an Uber or Lyft driver, but I do know that It costs me ten cents per mile just to drive my car, and that’s just for gas, not any other expenses (insurance, cell phone, maintenance, wear-and-tear, etc).

    From articles I have read, I have calculated that Uber drivers MAYBE make about .63 cents per mile driven, NET PROFIT, after all expenses are paid out. But I wish I knew how accurate this figure is.

    At .25 cents a mile driven, Uber and Lyft would not be worth it to me. At $1/per mile driven as profit, that would make it more worth while.

    .63 cents per mile net profit is questionable, especially when you figure that typical business reimbursement for using your own car at work is typically about .53 cents per mile, now days. And normally, when your employer reimburses you for using your car at work, you would also normally get paid your hourly wage while driving– in a normal employee/employer relationship. Of course as drivers for Uber and Lyft, we are independent constractors, not employees.

    If we are earning .63 cents net profit per mile driven from driving for Uber, you figure that’s barely just reimbursing you for the mileage on your car, and essentially you aren’t being paid at all for your time and labor!But no one ever mentions that.

    So, if I put 500 miles per week on my car, and I earn a take-home net profit of .63 cents per mile (IF that is the case; at this point, I do not know for sure) — then that is $315 for the week. That’s better than nothing, to be sure. But, still, it’s really just paying me for the car, not for my actual time and labor.

    Why don’t more people write aritcles that equate actual earnings per mile put on your car? Facts about earnings per hour are really rather irrelevant!

  136. mavrick Says:

    Calculator is a little bit of fluff if you ask me. Do you ask an office worker or a laborer or any other person to take meals, a personal cell phone plan, and basic car insurance out of their salary? I already have a cell phone plan with unlimited data, I have a car whether I drive with Uber/Lyft or not, I would eat lunch regardless of the job I have and working for them does not make it any more likely that I would eat out or spend more.

  137. Dave Knetsch Says:

    This is exactly how I see it as well. Most of us already have cell phones, a car and insurance, I checked with my carrier and it’s nothing to add ride share (still trying to understand that one) others have said it’s like $20/month. I am not discounting the wear and tear but if you have a Honda or Toyota with 150,000 miles on it the car is just not depreciated all that much and has a good shot of going another 100,000 at least. i don’t drive but am considering it part time.

  138. Kermit! Says:

    As soon as I saw the “give riders water and snacks,” I knew that this site was run by an Uber shill. If you want to maximize profits, giving away freebies is NOT the way to do it.

  139. Kermit! Says:

    Considering the recent changes to Uber and Lyfts pay structure and policies, it may be prudent to update the information listed to more accurately reflect current earning potential and expenses. What we make now is only a fraction of what we made a year ago and a month ago. (Same areas, same work hours, same strategies)

    Upfront pricing and the death of surge is killing driver earnings.

  140. Andre Leblanc Says:

    I could see selling it for profit though. Mac store prices of course.

  141. Sarah Hayton Says:

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  142. Deshayla Flowers Says:

    You guys should really take the little expenses you have in the calculator out. All those “expenses” are necessities that most people already have. In fact those “expenses” can now be WRITE OFFS on taxes. So technically those expense are not really expenses and shouldn’t even be in that calculator its misleading people into thinking they aren’t gonna make many money with Uber. I know people who do Lyft and Uber in Oklahoma and Make $120-$140 a day and that’s for a small state. So imagine how much people are making in the big cities.

  143. I never look at it per hour, You don’t work by the hour you work by the client. You’re not a paid employee when doing this, you’re self employed while doing this. I do agree with subtracting 20%. How I look at it, make $100 a day, put $20 aside, Make $200 a day, put $40 aside. Uber makes good side money and can make good overall money if treated as a business, this article was written by skeptics clearly.

  144. You’re looking at it wrong, Nobody actually drives around the entire time they’re online.

  145. Yea I wouldn’t count that as most people would have a cell phone anyway, driver or not. Before Driving you have an $80 cell phone bill, After driving you still have an $80 cell phone bill.

  146. You’re exactly right plus you get to write off depreciation when filing your 1099, a secretary can’t do that.

  147. Cliff Ubba Kodero II Says:

    They probably put in about 16-hour work day, otherwise it just doesn’t add up.

  148. SteveC Says:

    With tips while doing Uber EATS and Rides i can average around $15 – almost $20 per hr. Less the gas and estimate on yearly car depreciation, probably about $13 – $14 per hr. I drive in PHX where the money right now is at its highest. Uber EATS is lucrative believe it or not. you work harder and can get rated lower bc there is a lot of areas where you can get the blame for the orders and time it takes to deliver them

  149. billsteigerwald Says:

    Since 2015 I’ve easily made at least $300 a week for 12 to 15 busy hours of ubering work in Pittsburgh. Currently, I work about 4 pm to 11 pm Fridays and Saturdays, with an occasional foray on a Sunday to reach an incentive goal. Last week, a good one, I grossed $500 for 35 trips and about 14 hours of total driving. My wife earned a similar amount working the same hours. Except on a Sunday afternoon, I rarely have more than a couple minutes w/o a ride request on weekends. Ubering is a lousy full-time job but a great part-time one; you have to learn how to do it efficiently, and you should already have a good car like a Honda CRV, which I have used since early 2015.

  150. billsteigerwald Says:

    Come to Pittsburgh. After four-plus years of Ubering part-time, and after all the changes, including the end of the original surge prices, my hourly earnings have not dropped at all — and are in fact up. I still make a least $23 an hour and sometimes, as it was last week, it’s $32 for about 15 hours a week on weekends.

  151. John Lerner Says:

    IN 2019, Uber is a criminal ponzi scheme.

    When you start, they take 0% to 20% of what customers pay.
    After a couple months, they start taking up to 70% and pay nothing for gas.

    In 2019, on Most all rides they take 40% to 60% every day in 2019 and pay ZERO for GAS COSTS..

    While Gas Costs Go Up, Uber Dropped, screwing the driver.

    They were paying drivers 0.89 Cents a Mile. In 2019, now 0.59 Cents, again, without paying for gas!

    Uber is a ponzi scheme run by low class criminal scumbags that just happened to be at the right place at the right time. Every single thing they touch, they ruin. they do everything in a shady, back handed manner.

    I am 100% POSITIVE THEIR STOCK WILL CRASH AND BURN EXTREMELY QUIT.

    Wanna know why? The UBER CRIMINAL GROUP cannot share financials about many things,
    because it is a PONZI. There is no possible way they will continue to run this criminal network.

    In 2019, as you can see how they are bankrupting, and robbing all of their drivers by paying 59
    cents a mile and zero for gas, while now keeping all surge money, and hiding surge, surge pay from drivers.

    Something needs to be done about this criminal outfit right away..

    STOP THE UBER CON ARTIST PONZI SCHEME!

  152. annscottarnold Says:

    Boy Deshayla are you STUPID!!! “Write offs” as business costs means you have SPENT THAT MONEY – even if you are too dumb to know it (until your car needs $5000 in repairs or needs replaced because it was driven excessively) You are using up your data on your phone plan – that is a COST. You are (odds on) paying higher insurance rates.

    You are wearing out your tires FASTER and doing MORE oil changes. I do tires every 3 years or so on my car – they are good for 50,000 miles. My car gets an oil change twice a year . Double your annual mileage because you are driving for Uber et al and you have to buy TWICE as many tires and twice as many oil changes – triple your mileage a year and now it is THREE times as many tires and oil changes.

    A car only can go so many miles and then it is done. Buy a Prius (say $25000) and in 2 years run it 120000 driving for these companies. A 2 year old Prius in normal mileage range (24000 -30000) is worth $23000 —- but that now “high miles” 2 year old car with 120000 on it has dropped to being only worth $12000 (and is at risk of needing a $5400 battery pack soon.) You LOST $11000 in value on your car and prematurely shortened how many years it can keep going.

    Good luck on saving up enough money to pay for repairs (head gasket $2500 or Prius battery packs $5400 or new front end $2000) or to REPLACE the car you have driven into the ground 4 or 5 times faster and in 1/4 the of the years it would have gone if not used for Uber out of the garbage low rates these companies pay.

  153. annscottarnold Says:

    Stupid stupid stupid. You get to write off stuff because you have SPENT IT on business. (Or will be spending it when your car quits with 175000 miles at 3 years old when it should have gone for 12 years before hitting that mileage.)

    You are WEARING OUT your CAR!! You are shortening its useful life and will have huge repair bills sooner and making it worth LESS with the high miles

    You are using up your data on your phone for business. (Not all plans are unlimited)

    IF you have basic car insurance, you will NOT BE INSURED for commercial activity – commercial policy costs MORE.

    Meals can count because you have to sit on the street hoping for a customer – can’t go home to eat

    Gawd you people are DUMB!

  154. JL Eaton Says:

    I sincerely appreciate the article on Uber driver actual earnings, as it begins to expose just how low they are.

    However, I would go further and assert that drivers should deduct 54.5 cents per mile driven for Uber (IRS depreciation rate) as a direct cost that is to be deducted from apparent earnings. The IRS can be relied upon not to overestimate the cost to owners of vehicles when it comes to the “wearing out” of the asset; that is, Uber drivers are losing at least $5.45 per 10 miles driven off of apparent earnings because of the wearing out of the asset. As to accuracy, the IRS is far more likely to underestimate the wearing-out as to overestimate it (more revenue to the Government in the former rather than the latter); and that why I say, “at least” $5.45 to deduct per 10 miles driven for Uber.

    Additionally, the variance in the cost of gasoline in places like California vs. Texas did not appear to be accounted for. In places like Texas, drivers may do slightly better because of cheap gas, but worse in CA. because of the high price of gasoline.

    Finally, the worst stinger of all is probably the state and federal income taxes incurred by the self-employed. Uber drivers must report their income to the IRS under Schedule C, self-employment income. And with Self-employment income comes the ever-dreaded “self-employment tax.” A tax-cost that is otherwise split 50/50 between employees and employers is born 100% by the self-employed.

    The only counter-argument to the entire article, which is otherwise superb, is that Uber drivers by-and-large are not purchasing an asset for exclusive purpose of work (like a concrete-mixer or cash register); instead, they are employing a personal asset a certain percentage of total miles driven for business purposes. So, just as a small owner of any business who uses his/her vehicle in the evenings and weekends for personal reasons, the business aspect of the asset used (the vehicle) must be apportioned to personal and business uses.

  155. If it were only that simple, my simple minded friend. You’re just another emotional opinion resorting to name calling to mask your stupidity without providing any substance to the topic at hand.

    MBA drive Ubers too, dummy and I can tell you, there’s a considerable profit in New York.

  156. Rando Calrissian Says:

    So they drive back and forth between their homes? Or sit on a side street somewhere, ticking away their time?

  157. Rando Calrissian Says:

    Uber I took yesterday had peanut butter crackers and bottled water. Very common to see the water, the snacks are much less common.

  158. Rando Calrissian Says:

    As long as you’re driving “ride share” and not “internet taxi”, you’re fine with that logic. Just pick up a passenger when you’re headed to some shared destination, and you can ignore the vehicle costs. Anytime you pick someone up and take them somewhere you don’t need to go, all the expenses of the vehicle are on you, regardless if you already have a car or phone or not.

    The time you waste before, between and after rides is uncompensated, so to figure your hourly rate you need to divide your net pay by the total time you spend from start of the work period to the end of it, not just by the times spent carrying passengers. You also need to include the mileage from your home to your ride, between the last dropoff and the next pickup, and your ride home in your expenses. Even though you’re not paid for it, you are paying for the wear-and-tear, gas, etc.

    BTW my work pays for my phone, and $75 a month for using my personal car on business, plus 58 cents per mile. Yes, I am an office worker.

  159. Rando Calrissian Says:

    If the Uber/Lyft is a “Ride Share” as it is presented, then the costs of the vehicle shouldn’t be considered as the driver was already going to the airport and simply shared the ride with a passenger. If the Uber driver is treating the Uber/Lyft job as “Internet Taxi Driver”, then all the costs of driving that car should be deducted from the driver’s share of the fares.

    Rather than go through the task of estimating each cost and possibly overlook something, it is also reasonable to use the IRS estimate for the average cost of operating a car in the USA – 58 cents per mile. This is what the IRS will allow someone who drives on business to deduct from that business income for business travel if not compensated for their mileage, along with certain actual vehicle expenses not covered by the 58 cents. That means if you earned $35,000 from Uber trips, and your tax rate was 20%, your tax would be $7000, but your mileage and actual expenses could be deducted from that $35,000 income so you would save $20% of those expenses on your taxes. If you had $10,000 of mileage and deductible expenses, you would save $2000 on your taxes. You still would have to pay the $8000 cost to get the $2000 deduction – tax deductions are a discount, not a refund. Better than nothing, though.

    The IRS is not known to be generous, because they detest it when taxpayers get deductions, so you can rest assured 58 cents is on the low side rather than the high side for most cars – the IRS figured it using 25 mpg as the average gas mileage, FYI, and came up with 58 cents per mile.

    At that bare-bones rate, the typical cost to the driver for a 300 mile week is $174. If you think somehow it doesn’t apply to you because you’re special somehow, try doing the numbers realistically. The IRS already did in their quest to allow you to deduct as little as possible from your taxes. Chances are your trips cost more, not less, than 58 cents per mile.

    Why is that? Consider that the kind of miles UBER/Lyft cars drive tend towards stop-and-go city driving which is hard on vehicles and wears them out significantly more rapidly, meaning two brake jobs by 60,000 miles rather than one, two sets of tires by 80,000 miles rather than one, etc. Resale value drops when vehicles have a lot of miles on them, so if you sell your car at the exact chronological age that you normally would you will not get as much, so there’s another cost. If your prospective buyer checks your Facebook page, notices the place on the windshield where you did a bad job of scraping off the Lyft sticker, or otherwise realizes your vehicle has an Uber/Lyft history, it very well could scotch the deal.

    Finally, Internet Taxi drivers often sit in their cars idling away their time and their gas waiting for a fare, particularly when they have their sights set on airport rides. The time and miles you waste before, between and after rides is uncompensated, so to figure your hourly rate you need to divide your net pay by the total time you spend from start of the work period to the end of it, not just by the times spent carrying passengers. You need to include in your expenses the mileage from your home to your ride, between the last dropoff and the next pickup, and your ride home. Even though you’re not paid for it, you are paying for it.

    I know because the last airport ride I had was a guy who’d driven 30 miles to the airport to sit and wait for the only fare he had all night (lots of drivers, not many passengers that night), and then had a 45 mile trip home from my driveway. 75 uncompensated miles and roughly 3 hours of unpaid driving to get a half-hour, $35 fare. Who’s paying for that? He is, and his gross pay worked out to I believe less than $5 before expenses. That night, at least, he would have done better delivering Dominos. But that leads to another long, complicated calculation, because Domino’s Pizza offers health, dental, and vision benefits. Domino’s Pizza also provides group life insurance, short-term disability insurance for accidents or illness, and long-term disability insurance. All those benefits have to be considered part of the compensation, a part which Uber/Lyft doesn’t offer…

  160. Deborah Davis Says:

    I have not read all of the comments, but neither the survey nor these comments take a retired person into account. I am a retired Adjunct IT Professor, so I have a fairly comfortable retirement income. I have been driving for UBER only for three months as of 6/23/19. I drive part time, and on my own schedule which I really love. I already had a cell phone capable of the UBER app’s large battery usage, and I had insurance, which did go up only about $20 per month when I switched to GEICO, (which through my research is the best for commercial). So I do not need to work full time and this is just for fun, keeping busy, and of course I like the extra money. I am primarily a volunteer driver for Senior Services and they reimburse me 48.5 cents per mile, which covers more than my expenses. I have a 2019 KIA Niro Hybrid which is getting on average 55/plus miles per gallon. So, although I would not recommend someone attempting to make a good full time income with UBER alone, I think it is perfect for the retired, and for students working their way through school. Good luck and best wishes to all.

  161. AnastasiaBHausen Says:

    Wow, just wow. Clearly you’re off-balance and incapable of remarking on something without screaming at everyone. Take some deep breaths, watch a cat video, do something to calm down – you’re making a total fool of yourself. Sheesh!

  162. mavrick Says:

    guy…you obviously did not understand the post…I did not say it was completely in error and to ignore all of it.. I literally said it is a little inflated. Any adult in the US (which is where this is info is based in) has a cell phone and plan..it doesn’t make since to act as if that is an uber expense…I work in an office 40 minutes from home…I cannot go home for lunch so I have the same options as an uber driver. Take my lunch or buy my lunch…if we are using the logic from some of this anyone in any business is not being fairly compensated because they have to drive an hour to work, they have to buy or bring lunch and they have a cell phone. Those things do not make since in this calculators…as a “business person” I understand that logic.

  163. mavrick Says:

    I work in an office 40 minutes from home…I cannot go home for lunch. a shitload the of the population is in the same situation…should we all ask for a raise since we have to buy or bring our lunch?…GAWD

  164. Troilus Moss Says:

    I am averaging around $3500 a day with about 20-25 hours of driving daily with the rideshare companies. This information is for maybe a newbie, but in the Michigan area, drivers are experiencing $23.16-40 an hour and everyone will soon get a raise once I release the new book I’m working on. Doing a final read before I send it back to the publisher.

  165. Mark Says:

    As I figure this, you make what you make. You don’t do this because it’s high paying. You do this to make a few extra bucks when ever you want for as long as you want. If you want a job there are plenty out there.

    1. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Honestly, that’s the way I view a lot of the gig economy as a whole, but especially Uber. With California now passing AB5, drivers need to be especially aware of this point of view.

  166. This information was actually taken from over 1,000 drivers that we collected earnings screenshots from. Yes, some earn more and some earn less, but as a collective whole, the findings in this article are based on actual driver earnings. But… when your new book gets published, I’d love to take a read and see which actionable strategies from your book that we can share with our readers

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